AkNugget 2 Report post Posted September 4, 2013 http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/20130903/gold-miners-near-chicken-cry-foul-over-heavy-handed-epa-raids Neal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outnaboutnak 3 Report post Posted September 5, 2013 Intimidation by federal agencies against miners has been going on for decades and its ridiculous. While I can't fault them for carrying some kind of protection while traversing the remote edges of Alaska there tactics are obviously over the top. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Herschbach (Inactive) 32 Report post Posted September 5, 2013 The Alaska Environmental Crimes Task Force? Wow. I can just imagine the miner in his fedora with a Tommy gun - "I'm muddying the water, dirty rotten coppers, and you ain't going to stop me! You try, I'm taken you all with me!" Blam! Blam! Blam! Blam! Blam! Blam! They are supposed to be there taking water quality samples, for gosh sake. Since when does that take guns and body armor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Oates 9 Report post Posted September 5, 2013 Problem is like everywhere drug labs are hiding on claims. Mobile labs have been busted on my claims here in shasta county 3 times,coffee creek dozens,bonanza creek 20+ 55 gallon barrels of toxic drug waste,we just had 125 cops,3 helos bust 23 illegal grows and over half had drug labs producing powdered death at the same time. I am not surprised a bit. As usual the honest miner caught in the middle sic sic sic here in trinity/shasta counties the FS personel won't go and even service campgrounds without armed escorts-the drug wars are ON all over the US as cartels move in every state -John Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chickenminer 42 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 John, With all due respect, drug labs are not hiding on mining claims "everywhere". We are not guilty until proven innocent. With no prior history of any such activities in the mining district, the use of such tactics was totally uncalled for. The use of such tactics by federal officials only has the potential to create the very conflicts we try to avoid. 1 Clay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Herschbach (Inactive) 32 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 Chicken, Alaska is not California by a long shot! "Rampant drug and human trafficking"? That would be hilarious were the whole thing not so serious. Hopefully the Congressional delegation puts some heat under EPA for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Herschbach (Inactive) 32 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 Governor Parnell orders investigation http://www.adn.com/2013/09/05/3059732/parnell-orders-investigation-of.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Oates 9 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 Try watching Alaska State troopers show and seen and heard from friends who went,saw also. AK ain't no disneyland of clean livn' -we ALL got our 1%rs except kalif about 20% since prisons being emptied-John Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Oates 9 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 Warning posted on Nuggetshooter this am-names and all info. Miner robbed of new 6" dredge on Chicken creek ,lost all equipment,camp,everything. 3 days of walking to get out-DRUGGIES ROBBED HIM BLIND AT GUNPOINT-o yes everything is just grand in AK hahaha-nope-John Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Herschbach (Inactive) 32 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 Nobody said everything is peaches and cream in Alaska John. Hooray for you backing EPAs methods in this matter. I do not agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bill-costa rica 2 Report post Posted September 8, 2013 in costa rica they use the same reason to raid or watch some place . drugs and human trafficing. be it true or not. things are getting out of hand all over the world. alaska is just the newest place. bill/cr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ronald C 3 Report post Posted September 8, 2013 With all due respect John, human trafficking and drug labs in Chicken was a ludicrous excuse to show such force while checking water quality. I agree there is crime everywhere, but there are simply not enough people for the human trafficking trade. Chicken, even on the Taylor highway, is just too remote for a drug lab. It would be possible, but a bad decision business wise. I don't think those guys are all dumb. There would be much better isolated places nearer population centers (markets for illegal drugs) such as....northern California. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geowizard 122 Report post Posted September 8, 2013 Human trafficking in Alaska? - Geowizard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chickenminer 42 Report post Posted September 8, 2013 Warning posted on Nuggetshooter this am-names and all info. Miner robbed of new 6" dredge on Chicken creek ,lost all equipment,camp,everything. 3 days of walking to get out-DRUGGIES ROBBED HIM BLIND AT GUNPOINT-o yes everything is just grand in AK hahaha-nope-John John, I don't believe a word of that post. None of it makes sense. Did the guy file a report with the Troopers? If not, why ? If he did, give me a date and I'll look it up. I'll bet there is a whole lot more to that story! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ronald C 3 Report post Posted September 10, 2013 Human trafficking in Alaska? Here's the stats... In 2012 nationwide over 20,000 cases. Alaska had 22. - Geowizard Thanks.Human trafficking sounded pretty hard to imagine. Gas is probably more valuable in the area. I am not an Expert on Alaska, but I have spent a few months around Chicken and Forty Mile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geowizard 122 Report post Posted September 12, 2013 EPA publishes monitoring information related to inspections and violations. - Geowizard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geowizard 122 Report post Posted September 13, 2013 The Federal government is probing it's self. - Geowizard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carter 3 Report post Posted December 27, 2013 so was it all on federal claims or any state claims? Seams like people should have privacy rights/trespassing? In the newsminer article it said the state troopers didn't know anything about the "human trafficking or drugs of any kind in chicken". I hope the state officials straighten this out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chickenminer 42 Report post Posted December 27, 2013 Hi Carter, No it was not limited in scope. EPA "inspected" state, federal and private claims. All under the guise of enforcing section 404 of the Clean Water Act. Nothing has been "straightened out". We are still waiting for the Governor's special task force to publish its findings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carter 3 Report post Posted December 30, 2013 Well maybe no more "raids" in Alaska, just gonna be using their drones now that Alaska is 1 of the five states picked to test them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Underburden 13 Report post Posted December 31, 2013 What a great way to improve your trap shooting skills. PULL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
