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"Why do you choose to believe in dowsing and not believe in voodoo?"


I would like to respond to this off-topic opening, beliefs, but you sir, would eventually demand that, I take it somewhere else.  You're a bit too narrow minded to discuss beliefs.


You'll be more entertaining if you keep focused on science.

One slight problem with your argument. Belief is narrow-minded by definition. Willingness to not believe is broad/open-minded.

The reason is actually quite simple. For belief systems to survive, all evidence, proofs and arguments to the contrary MUST be soundly rejected. Accepting anything contrary to the belief undermines the belief.

Science could care less what anyone believes. Science is always the skeptic. Science demands replicability by anyone who performs the experiment. Science explains.

Belief never explains.

Science defends itself.

Only force can defend a belief. Hence personal attacks such as, "You're a bit too narrow minded to discuss beliefs." and "You'll be more entertaining if you keep focused on science."

No big guns to use against the message, so attack the messenger.

So in effect, the willingness for non-believers to discuss dowsing demonstrates broad/open-mindedness.

Believe what you will. But when you trot beliefs out in a forum where science rules, get use to being confronted by science.


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Hey, thanks Eric,


The art of dowsing has today been redirected towards belief.  


Shall we now discuss why Muslims took down the World Trade Center?


There is no beginning nor end.  Only belief.







K Rose initiated this thread as "The Art Of Dowsing"  Art is essential to this topic, science is a diversion.



Art is often intended to appeal to and connect with human emotion. It can arouse aesthetic or moral feelings, and can be understood as a way of communicating these feelings. Artists express something so that their audience is aroused to some extent, but they do not have to do so consciously. Art may be considered an exploration of the human condition; that is, what it is to be human.---wiki


Art and science, thankfully, promote the exploration of the "idea".  

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(Just posted this same reply in "dowsing debunked" thread also)


When a good buddy of mine told me his father-in-law was paying a local dowser $10,000 to find water on his ranch in Shandon, California (close to Paso Robles) due to the recent drought and wells being sucked dry by all the vineyards springing up like weeds; I laughed and asked him if he was serious...


The family has farmed in the area for over 100 years and yes, he was serious...


This dowser found an underground river on their property (this was 2 months ago) that has water coming from the Wasatch Range in Utah (per the isotope survey of the water... that one through me for a loop)


Anyway, the water is coming up in gushers and the property value sky-rocketed, so go figure..?

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Finding water by dowsing doesn't make dowsing real any more than guessing who the next person elected president would make one a psychic.

Water is all over - it falls from the sky and gravels in the ground carry water that fell as rain long ago.

A five year old who had been blindfolded as in pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey might throw darts at a map and pick well sites just as accurately as a dowser.

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we tried witching on our claims this year we can locate bench channels but we don't know what to look for in the rods or what type are the best for gold . We are in the circle mining dist in Alaska any input.

 thanks in advance Doug

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We would walk from the creek towards the edge of the bottom the witch rods would cross each time the ground would change. We would dig across with excavator each time were the rods crossed there would be a change in material showing a different channel . The  channels would be from 20ft wide to 200ft wide from 10ft deep to 16t deep. This is in permafrost undesterebed ground with 2ft of muck with blueberry, willow brush, on top wet and dry ground. The rods only cross when the ground beneth changes    we did this for about 600ft up the creek bottom.


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