Steve Herschbach (Inactive) 32 Report post Posted November 25, 2013 "Gold, iron ore, soybeans and copper will probably drop at least 15 percent next year as commodities face increased downside risks even as economic growth in the U.S. accelerates, according to Goldman Sachs Group Inc." http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-21/goldman-predicts-significant-losses-for-gold-iron-ore-in-2014.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary M 4 Report post Posted November 25, 2013 Cool... that means within 2 years, we could be looking at $2000 an ounce. Gotta love GS and the way they continually manipulate the media and their clients... errr I mean their muppets. 2 jeff08xx and Clay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rod Seiad 28 Report post Posted November 25, 2013 $2,000 or $1,000 gold spot......To be, or, not to be.......might be the question. Miners at $2,000 spot were expanding and making capital improvements. I really did like that period, I hope it returns. Miners at $1,000 spot will be closing down mines and curtailing exploration. I'd like to avoid that. To be a miner at $2,000 or not to be a miner at $1,000............ GS and the club of heavy hitters, play us with reckless abandon. I'll quote John Oates..."I care not for the price of gold, I am a miner.....therefore I am." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary M 4 Report post Posted November 25, 2013 GS and the club of heavy hitters, play us with reckless abandon. Uhhh speak for yourself there dude... who is this "us" you refer too? GS doesn't have jack on me. If you know how to play the options market it's real easy to front run GS. It pays to be nimble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rod Seiad 28 Report post Posted November 26, 2013 Good one Gary, Going forward you and I can be on opposite ends of the same teeter-totter. I gather native gold and hoard it, never sell. I trade my gold to cover expenses. I'd never play games with gold like you do. 1 Clay reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary M 4 Report post Posted November 26, 2013 I gather native gold and hoard it, never sell. I trade my gold to cover expenses. I'd never play games with gold like you do. No games... it's called hedging. Farmers do it, the big miners do it, and oil producers do it. Pretty much anybody that harvests, mines, or drills a natural resource that is a traded commodity will hedge that resource against price fluctuations through futures and options contracts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rod Seiad 28 Report post Posted November 27, 2013 Thanks Gary, How is hedging working for you? Do you consider hedging a form of insurance? You know, a financial product being sold as a means to help you sleep better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cochetopa 5 Report post Posted December 11, 2013 Hello, My $.02 worth. Everything I have read regarding Goldman Sachs leads me tobelieve GS never does anything that is not in its own self-interest to makemoney for themselves. If GS is advising to sell pork bellies, it is becausethey are buying and want you to sell (to them), thus helping maintain a liquidmarket. They could be buying because GS analysts see a future bull market inpork bellies and GS wants to acquire inventory, or pork bellies have retreatedfrom a recent high where short positions were established and now GS wants tocover their shorts by inducing you to sell your inventory to them. It’s a verydirty racket and nothing is as it seems. Sincerely, -C 1 Ace S reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace S 1 Report post Posted January 3, 2014 Steve, Ace here . It will be very interesting to see what happens. But it is the FED we need to watch. GS as Cochetopa says are using us to enrich themselves. The Fed and their QE3 scam is the real issue. They have created 2 Bubbles, the massive reinflation of the Stockmarket and pumping $$$ into Realestate market are creating that BUBBLE , that cannot last. All of this is devaluing our assets and labor in the end. 1 jeff08xx reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artic gold 4 Report post Posted January 13, 2014 Perhaps a larger issues to consider on the future price of gold will be how much faster the Federal Gov. expands Socialism. What we considered normal trade with a Capitalist basis has now been transform in a Communist like Gov. controlled shell game. Our Gov. pour huge amounts of liquidity into any sector it see fit and for whatever reason it chooses. They could crash gold or make it go out of sight with just a flick of a button. GS and the FEDS all feed at the same place, your earnings. The system we have controlling our financial future has clearly established the new rules,, If you produce anything with labor or goods you will be punished and the more labor or goods you produce the more you will be punished with progressive taxes. AND If you choose to fail they will reward you. The more you fail the more they will reward you with someone else's labor and goods. Maybe a few ups and downs for gold but for me I can't wait to trade some more Federal RES. Notes for gold. 2 jeff08xx and Geowizard reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cochetopa 5 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 My expectation for the future price of gold will try the patience of the most ardent gold bug: I am looking for sideways to occasional sloppy up movement for a long time, two years to reach $1500, and two more years to hit $2000. However, the gold/commodities pundit at this advisory service, http://www.moneyandmarkets.com believes gold remains in a bear market and wants to see a downward price spike both in gold stocks and the commodity that signals panic selling. The advisor says gold could rise to $1289 before resuming downward price action. He would like to see a drop to $1100 or below before he issues his advice to buy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff08xx 3 Report post Posted February 25, 2014 If you watch and read the news, everything is going up. I predict $1900 gold by summers end and breaking thru to 2K by October. Forget ETFs and buy coinage. You better get to digging it up and hang onto it. It will takeoff as the meltdown approaches. Get ready. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karu 1 Report post Posted March 6, 2014 GS opiniona are worth about what I paid for them. zip! Melbourne, Australia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artic gold 4 Report post Posted March 21, 2014 Don't forget about Golds little brother Silver.. When I was a kid working at a gas stations we sold full service gas for around $.25 to $.35 a gallon. So way back then in the 60's you could buy a gallon of gas for about one silver quarter. Well here we are 2014 and that same silver quarter will still buy you about a gallon of gas. Another interesting ratio on Gold and Silver. A $20 gold piece was about an oz. of gold and the Silver dollar was a little over 3/4 oz. So the ratio was about 15 oz. of Silver =ed about 1 oz. of gold. Today the ration is very different. It takes about 65 oz of Silver for the 1 oz of Gold. So if you go back to these ratios Gold would be about $350 oz or if gold is correct silver would be $88 an oz. Of course none of this makes any difference but to me I don't mind keeping some Silver in the can with the Gold. Small Silver coins may be very handy to buy yourself a loaf of bread some day. 1 Sampson Resouces reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geowizard 122 Report post Posted April 19, 2014 Gold seems to be holding near $1300 an ounce. - Geowizard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elijah W 1 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 What kind of formula do you use to figure those production figures, Geo, or are you just basing your numbers off what a 50 yd/hr plant will produce? It seems to me that .05oz/yd x 50 yds/hr would equal 2.5oz/hr. 1 Geowizard reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manVSgold 5 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 My research seems to have brought me to the same conclusion as Steve stated above. But i do believe in 20 years, gold will be way way up.I think holding onto my gold is gonna be the best bet for me. 1 Sampson Resouces reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geowizard 122 Report post Posted April 24, 2014 You are correct! - Geowizard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reno Chris 101 Report post Posted May 18, 2014 Gold has been holding pretty steady at around $1300 more of less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geowizard 122 Report post Posted August 12, 2014 Gold is still in the range of $1300. - Geowizard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reno Chris 101 Report post Posted August 18, 2014 Geowizard - One would think at $1300 per ounce gold we would have people jumping up and down and mining companies drilling everywhere. But it aint so. Instead, interest is at a low ebb. You'd think from the interest level gold had sunk to $500 an ounce. The price wont reach below $1,000 an ounce during the year since the first post of this thread as predicted, but the interest level in gold prospecting and mining exploration has gone down to that level. I talk to folks who sell commercial equipment to mining companies and for most the sales are way down. Exploration outfits who spend high risk money to drill cant afford to drill. When I was in Africa last time - a place where exciting new mines have been found recently - all the commercial drill rigs sat in the storage yards unused. If you are in a situation where you don't need new money and you are set to go, then you may be just fine, but for many who need money, the price is still decent at $1300, but the interest in prospecting or investment is terrible at this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rod Seiad 28 Report post Posted September 9, 2014 You're right Chris, interest is at a low. My take is that the trend might not be my friend. Are we gonna ever turn the bottom and head upwards? Well that's a good question, time has got to run it's course. The bottom is where? Until we define and set a bedrock bottom, the upside continues to look bleak. I know the high of $2000 spot a while back had everybody's attention, but the forecasts of even higher fizzled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geowizard 122 Report post Posted September 10, 2014 As a producer, the market matters. - Geowizard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geowizard 122 Report post Posted September 10, 2014 You bring up a good point about investor sentiment in the gold sector. - Geowizard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geowizard 122 Report post Posted September 10, 2014 You can read Management Discussion and Analysis (MDA's) that are published annually and quarterly by various mining companies. The price of gold weighs heavily in the discussions. - Geowizard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites